Lydia (Roberts) Thomas
Lydia Roberts
Paternal Grandmother
(father's mother)
Elected 'deaconess for life'
by her local Baptist church
(English Baptist Chapel
Ponciau, North Wales)

Lloyd  Emslie  Thomas
In appreciation, for we do not choose our ancestry, as God has made that choice for us,
as part of His physical and psychological equipping for us to complete our special responsibility



Orginal British Passport foto of Joseph Reginald Thomas
Joseph Reginald Thomas
Father
on this planet which our earthy existence lays upon us (of those whom He foreknows will be His in Christ).
1.  Lloyd (Lwyd) Emslie Thomas (1941 – );  Ruth Lydia Andre (1943 – ); Helen Olive Lee (1945 – )
2.
Joseph Reginald Thomas (1902 - 1991) = Olive Gertrude Emslie (-1976), daughter of Henry Norman Emslie
JR Thomas left home becaue his brother Herbert was jealous of his relationship to their mother which made life difficult, so he
moved to America and lived and worked for a few years with his father's brother George Lloyd Thomas,
herding his cattle,
on his ranch near Jackson (where his uncle had a butchery), Amador County, California, USA. See: JR Thomas' Gold Dream
3.
John Thomas of Johnstown (1865 - 1909) = Lydia Roberts, daughter of Edward Roberts of Sontly, North Wales
He facilitated the founding of the first English language Baptist church in North Wales, for his wife and others who did not speak Welsh.
4.
Joseph Thomas of Hafod y bwch (1836 - 1920) = Mary Ann Jackson.
5.
John Thomas of Plas yn fron (1799 - 1869) = Ann Lloyd (daughter of Squire Thomas Lloyd) in 1823
in defiance at Gretna Green in Scotland, and promise each other that
in every generation of their decendants a male would receive the name 'Lloyd'.
6.
Thomas Thomas of Lawnt, Llangadwaladr (1766 - 1821) = Anne
7.
Solomon Thomas (Baptist preacher) of Pen y Craig (1724 - 1769) = Margaret Owen of Llanblodwel
8.
Thomas ap Lewis = Mary
9.
Lewis ap Thomas
10.
Thomas (patronymic ancestor) = ? daughter of Edward, son of Thomas (Thōmâs in its Aramaic original would be תאומא)
11.
Lewis Morus (d.1690)  = Tonett or Jonnetta, daughter of Evan Vaughan of Lloran.
12.
Morus II
13.
Lewis I
14. Morus I = Angharad
15.
Rhys
16.
Gethyn
  17. Gruffudd of Lloran Uchaf = Margaret
  18. Jeuan Gethin of Abertanat = Margaret, daughter of Rhys; son of Gruffudd.
 
19.
Madoc Kyffin = Tangwystl, daughter of Jeuan Foel of Pencelli.
 
20.
Madoc Goch = Leuka,daughter of Hoeli Goch; son of Maredudd Uechan.
 
21.
Jeuaf = Ena, daughter of Adam, son of Arthur of Trevor.
 
22.
Kyhelin = Ena, daughter of Grono, son of Kadwgan of henvach yn Mochnant.
 
23.
Ruon Rhys = Jennetta, daughter of the Strange Lord of Knockin [probably so-called from the Norman conquest].
 
24.
Eignion Evell (twin of Cynric) (d.1196) = Arddyn daughter of Madoc Uechan

322-years
before Columbus
25.
Maddock (d.1160, interred Meifod yn Powys) = Susanna, daughter of (King) Owain Gwynedd (d.1169); son of Gruffudd (d.1136); son of Cynan.
Susanna was sister of (Prince) Madoc/Madog who landed at Mobile Bay, North America, in 1170 AD, with a fleet of ten ships from Porthmadog, North Wales.
(He left originally because of quarrelling among his brothers over their inheritance, and sailed off to the 'West of Ireland'.
He returned a year later to say he had found a beautiful land and persuaded many others to join him in travelling there.)
In 1953, the Daughters of the American Revolution erected a plaque at Fort Morgan on the shores of Mobile Bay, Alabama, reading:
'In memory of Prince Madoc a Welsh explorer who landed on the shores of Mobile Bay in 1170 and left behind with the Indians the Welsh language.'
The plaque was removed by the Alabama Parks Service in 2008 and put in storage. Since then there has been controversy in getting the plaque reinstalled.
26. Maredudd = Hunydd
= Susanna(?), daughter of Gruffudd, son of Cynan (=Ragnhildr, daughter of Auloedd King of Dublin), son of Iago
, son of Meurig,
son of Idwal Foel the Bald King of Gwynedd, d.942  (=Avandreg, daughter of Merfyn, d.900, son of Rhodri Mawr)
son of Anarawd, son of Rhodri Mawr
27.
Bleddyn Prince of Deheubath, reigned1063 to 1075 (d.1075 Powys Castle) = Haer, daughter of Cilin (Lord of Gestyn-Efionydd). Made amendments to the laws of Hywel Dda.
28.
Cynfyn (King of Powys) = Angharad* (widow of Llywelyn son of Seisyllt (d.1023), see her ancestry below. Through her first husband she is also ancestral to Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, and Head of the Commonwealth).
  29. Gwerystan    
  30. Gwaethfoed (Lord of Cibwyr in Gwent), son of Gwrhydr, son of Bleddyn, son of Caradawyg, son of Lles Law Deawg,
son of Ednyfed, son of Gwynnau, son of Gwynnawg Farfsych, son of Ceidau, son of Coryf of Gwynedd.

*28. Angharad Queen of Powys = Cynfyn, son of Gwryston, son of Gwaethfoed (Lord of Cibwyr in Gwent)
29.
Maredudd (d.999).    
30. Owain, King of South Wales (d.987) = Angharad, daughter of Llewelyn,  son of Merfyn, son of Rhodri Mawr
31. Hywel Dda (The Good) Prince of Deheubath (d.950) = Elen, daughter of Llywarch, son of Hyfaidd.
32.
Cadell (d.909)    
33.
Rhodri Mawr (d.878)    
 
34.
Merfyn Frych the Freckled, King of Gwynedd (d.844) = Nest daughter of Cadell of Powys, son of Brochwel.  
35.
Gwriad King of Gwynedd = Ethil, daughter of Cynan*,
son of Rhodri, son of Molwynog, son of Idwal (d.712), son of Cadwaladr (d.664), son of Cadwallon (d.634), son of Cadfan (d.617), son of Iago (d.613), son of Beli (d.599), son of Rhun (d.586), son of Maelgwyn (d.547), son of Cadwallon (d.517), son of Einion, son of Yrth, son of Cunedda (=Gwawl, daughter of Tehvant*, son of Urban*), son of Aeternus, son of Paternus of the Red Robe, son of Tacitus.
(See secondary table of Ethil's ancestry below to the right)
  36. Elidir 36 Cynan*
  37. Sandde 37 Rhodri
  38. Alcwyn 38 Molwynog
 
39.
Tegid 39 Idwal (d.712)
  40. Gwair 40 Cadwaladr (d.664)
  41. Dwywg 41 Cadwallon (d.634)
  42. Llywarch Hen 42 Cadfan (d.617)
  43. Elidir 43 Iago (d.613)
  44. Meirchion Gul 44 Beli (d.599)
  45. Gwrst 45 Rhun (d.586)
  46. Ceneu 46 Maelgwyn (d.547)
  47. Coel Hen (brother of Gwawl, wife of Cunedda the son of Aeternus) 47 Cadwallon (d.517)
  48. Tehvant 48 Einion
  49. Urban 49 Yrth (Enniaun Girt)
      50
Cunedda (the Burner)
conquered Carlisle 460 AD.
An alternative listing of generations which counts down from the earliest in ancient Roman Briton 51 Aeternus (Edeyrn)
      52
Paternus of the Red Robe
(Roman military officer)
 
   
 
  53 Tacitus
Latin names would indicate the Romano-British origins of the family.
A key to the inter-relationship
of the above family lines of descent:
 
53.
 Tacitus
(probably c.350 AD)
52.
Paternus of the red Robe
Urban
  51.
Aeternus
Tehvant
  50.
Cunedda            =         Gwawl   (*sister of Coel Hen)
  49.
Yrth
 
Coel Hen*
  48.
Einion
   
  47.
Cadwallon (d.517)
 
 Ceneu
  46.
Maelgwyn
   
  45.
Rhun
 
Gwrst
  44.
Beli
 
Meirchion Gul
  43.
Iago
 
Elidir
  42.
Cadfan
 
Llywarch Hen
  41.
Cadwallon
 
Dwywg
  40.
Cadwaladr
 
Gwair
  39.
Idwal
 
Tegid
  38.
Molwynog
 
Alcwyn
  37.
Rhodri
 
Sandde
  36.
Cynan
 
Elidir
  35.
Ethil  =   Gwriad son of Elidir
  34.
Merfyn Frych
  33.
Rhodri Mawr (d.878), three sons
  32.
Cadell (d.909)
  Merfyn 30,26   Anarawd 26

Some Interesting Early Events
304 BC
"The island is thickly populated...has an extremely chilly climate...(Its inhabitants) are unusually hospitable and gentle in their manner... Their diet is inextensive and quite different from the luxury that is born of wealth... It [British Isles] has many kings and potentates who live for the most part in a state of mutual peace ..."
(Written by Pytheas of Marseilles in 310 BC, after his circumnavigation of Britain in 304 BC)
Seven hundred years later, after many generations of Roman occupation:
c.AD 400
An aristocratic group led by Cunedda, drawn from an area of strong Romano-British traditions  migrates to northwest Wales from Manaw,
a small province round the head of the Firth of Forth in the land of Gododdin (one of the Brythonic kingdoms of north Britain),
in order to expel the Irish who had occupied the area.
Birth of Arthur (Artorius) King of Britain in c.475 AD; he leads a British army against the Saxons as far as along the Loire in Gaul.
Victory over the Saxons at Mount Badon, near Wansdyke, in 516 brought peace for a generation; Arthur dies from wounds after the battle of Camlann, near Camelford in Cornwall c.537.
St. Columba records first sighting of the Loch Ness 'monster' - 11 October 565 AD in the river Ness. From the eye-witness description
it was probably a plesiosaur chasing spawning salmon up the river Ness in from the North Sea swimming in a penguin-like motion.

(This fossilized plesiosaur skeleton was discovered in a Dorset cliff by Mary Anning in 1821).

In 2015 the National Geographic magazine publishes the ridiculous assertion (ISSN 2160-7141) that it was an Indian circus elephant swimming.
An "Indian elephant" from a "circus" in Scotland in the 6th century. How ridiculous can you get!
St. David (Dewi, born c.520) son of Sandde, son of Cedig, son of Ceredig, son of Cunedda, (whose mother was Non)
preached the gospel and started many churches in southern Cambria (Wales). Died c.600 AD.
"About the yeare of Christ 590, Gurmundus, an archpirate and capteine of the Norwegians [Vikings], after that he had conquered Ireland,
being called by the Saxons to their aid against Careticus king of Britons, overcame the same Careticus in battell, and compelled him and his Brytaines to flee
beyond the rivers of Severne and Dee to Cambria, now called Wales, and to Cornwale, and some to Brytaine Armorike [Brittany],
where they remaine to this daie; and gave Lhoegria, now England, to the Saxons.

And albeit, that Cadvan, Cadwalhan, and Cadwalader, were sithence entituled Kings of all Brytaine,
yet they could never recover againe the quiet possession of the whole island afterwards."
(Quoted in Hoare's introduction to de Barri, see below)


Bibliography to this Thomas Gene-Stream
•  Ashe, Geoffrey 1982 Kings and Queens of Early Britain (ISBN 0-413-47920-X).
•  Bridgeman, George Thomas Orlando 1868 Princes of Upper Powys, Ancient Lords of Mechain, Welsh Lords of Kerry & Arwystli. (British Library, accession no. 8225)
•  de Barri, Giraldus 1188 AD (translated by Sir RC Hoare, 1806) The Intinerary of Archbishop Baldwin through Wales. London.
•  Lloyd, Sir John Edward, and RT Jenkins (editors) 1959 The Dictionary of Welsh Biography Down to 1940, under the auspices of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion. Oxford, UK: BH Blackwell Ltd.
•  Lloyd, Jacob Youde William (Esq. of Clochfaen), 1881 The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, and the ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen and Meirionydd. London, UK: T. Richards of Great Queen Street.
•  Roderick, AJ 1968 Looking at Welsh History - from earliest times to the Middle Ages (vol.1 & 2). London, UK: A & C Black.
•  Wagner, Sir Anthony, Garter King of Arms (with JP Brooke-Little, Richmond Herald of Arms; RO
•  Dennys, Somerset Herald of Arms; F Jones, Wales Herald of Arms Extraordinary) 1969+, Royal & Princely Heraldry in Wales. London, UK: Tabard Publications Ltd.
•  Yorke, Philip (Esq. of Erthig) 1799 The Royal Tribes of Wales. Wrexham, Wales: John Painter.
•  Hull University Database, UK: http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/
The above data is subject to refinement as further information becomes available